His name is Robert Lindsay.  Yesterday I posted an essay about his criticism of Game and his personal attacks on various writers in the sphere.  I commented on the essay he wrote pertaining to the same subject.  I thought we had a good back and forth going on at first as I was thinking he just did not get some of the basic premises of Game theory and so forth.  However after reading more about him I see that he is suffering from severe cognitive dissonance and probably some sort of narcissistic disorder because he thinks everything in the world should be fair and men shouldn’t have to change or be engaging in order to succeed with women all the while attempting to learn Game himself.  It’s weird actually.  I guess he wants to still be able to be a dweeb and score with hot chicks.  It was no surprise that I found out he is a radical liberal and a Communist.  Like all liberals he lives in a fantasy land and he is a hypocrite because anyone who disagrees with him is an asshole then banning them if they have a “hostile tone”.  I have to LOL this one.

Anyways, throughout his blog in almost every article he bans someone and anyone he disagrees with.  I suppose I should have not been surprised that he banned me for disagreeing with him and then calling me an asshole.  I truly wanted to help him because looking at his picture and reading his articles; he needs all the help he can get.  But like it has always been stated, some men you just can’t help.

Below are my comments to him and his responses.  There is value in that it may help those trying to overcome their misunderstanding or objections to Game. Or we can just have a quick laugh at the weird guy’s expense.  Whatever dude.

 

Robert Lindsay

August 5, 2014 at 4:41 AM

To me, a 10 is simply a woman in the Top 10% of attractiveness. That’s all there is to it, real simple.

Game isn’t futile. But the notion that all men can be Alphas is insanity, and this what the whole lunatic PUAshpere is all about. It’s madness.

Nevertheless, I think most guys would do better to learn some of the principles of Game and to try to be more Alpha. The more you learn Game and the more Alpha you act, I think the more success you are going to have with women.

That whole PUAsphere is absolutely repulsive. I don’t even see how you guys can read any of that shit. SMFH.

Also, how come 100% of Game and PUA sites are run by reactionaries?! Why do all Game and PUA sites have be part of some shit called the Alt Right (the modern reactionary movement). Game is simply the truth. Why don’t progressive men need to learn this stuff too? I mean the truth is that many of us Left guys have always known a lot of this stuff, and personally I have been practicing a lot of this Game stuff for 35 years now, but still, it is sickening that the only websites we can go to to talk about how to get girls are run by reactionary shits and misogynist fucks. Sickening.

 

monkeywerks

August 5, 2014 at 10:47 PM

Really dude?  The common sites promoting game promote nothing more than positive masculinity and self improvement in one flavor or another. Maybe it’s that that you really have a problem with? Improving one’s self often leads to more attention from women. Its cause and effect. For the moralist they can choose the best women to date, have sex with, marry, etc. For amoral men they may choose to bang as many of these women as they can.

The biggest issue I see that you have is that you seem to think that these writers think much less of men who would be considered “beta” or “lesser alphas”. Now I can see why it’s funny to make fun of men who are “omegas” and such. (I use these terms loosely of course). The omegas seem to want to keep their head in the sand and deny the existence of many of our current problems by just wishing they did not exist. Many of these same men will choose to criticize Game in all of its formats instead of spending their time improving themselves or going out and actually meeting women.


Anyways back to my point. Roissy, Vox, Deti, and all of the others seem to have a genuine interest in helping the betas and even the omegas improve themselves and improve their success with women. I have been an avid reader of many sites in the sphere for quite some time and very rarely if ever do I see the vitriol you expressly state exists.

Although I have always had pretty good experiences meeting women I do not consider myself a womanizer or great alpha by any means. However I still met many a HB8 and above and married a woman who objectively was considered a HB9. She is tall, blue with long blonde hair and has a high IQ. Unfortunately it was my BETA mindset and her feminist ideology that led to the failure of the marriage. Not that I’m sorry about it because it’s what I learned from these sites that helped me to realize what a catch I am and helped me to be even more successful at meeting new higher quality women.

As for the other issues you bring up, I will say that your take is very debatable and conflict with my own personal observations and experiences. Even my wife had to prove herself to me when we first started dating because I was dating several other women at the same time. She didn’t like it of course but I think that it increased her attraction to me. That’s the way it works in reality it seems.

Robert Lindsay

August 6, 2014 at 12:01 AM

Trust me, I have no truck with masculinity of self-improvement and trust me, Game sites go far beyond that.

You want to give me a reason why all PUA sites are swarming with the most horrible misogyny? You want to give me a fucking reason why I have to be a Godddamn reactionary to sharpen my pickup skills? You want to give me a reason why most Game sites not only hate women but also hate men who don’t make much money (See the Libertarianism) and people who aren’t White (notice that at this point most of the PUA idiots are White nationsists if not overt fucking Nazis). You want to give me a reason why most of these PUA tools are insanely narcissistic if not sociopathic? You want to give me a reason why all PUA advocate treating women like shit? You want to point out these PUA sites that don’t advocate being a promiscuous player Alpha and instead teach you how to settle down with your wife? You want to name me one fuckin site like that?

Ok, now you see my beefs.

You may not believe this but I read these sites myself, and of course I practice Game myself. If you knew about my life, you would realize that I was already practicing “Game” in the late 1970’s in my teens (all of us were – we had to be). A lot of this is stuff you already know or have been doing anyway. There is some new stuff there and I have been taking notes from all of these Game sites all the time. I agree that they have a lot of cruel and awful truths to tell, and I agree that your life tends to go better with Game.

Now you see that I am part of the Loyal Opposition maybe you will calm down.

I am very happy you used Game to have a happier and more productive relationship with your current girl and with the ones who came before. I myself am using Game to improve my relationships. My beef is not with Game per se but with some of the subaspects of it and mostly with the fucktards who peddle it.

You seem to be implying that most men would do better if they tried to be more “Alpha” in their behaviors, no matter how the Alpha – Beta – Omega scorecard plays out when the whistle blows. I agree. Alphas, Betas and Omegas can probably all improve their lives with women by employing variations of Game.

As you can see, we are actually on the same page here.

monkeywerks

August 6, 2014 at 1:18 AM

Angry much? For one Dalrock promotes relationship game within a Christian context while also promoting a more moral execution of game theory. He does not advocate male promiscuity. I would love to emulate his marriage. Rollo Tomassi is another who speaks a lot about gender dynamics while leaving out politics and most personal experiences. That is 2 sites instead of just 1 like you asked for.
As for your accusation of misogyny well I think your opinion is quite subjective because your premise is faulty. How about we talk about misandry?
The blacks have their own sites. Furthermore blacks and whites approach mating and gender dynamics differently. Learn about black’s intergender dynamics pre and post Reconstruction Acts then report back. Your findings will surprise you. Also, there is no rule saying I have to write my essays in such a way as to encourage readers from other races. That’s just pure PC bullshit. Otherwise none of these sites are fundamentally racists. Point to a specific example of blatant racism, if you can.


As for your issue of Game being reactionary. We all react to outside forces. When there is a bad storm coming I close the windows to my house. Game is a reaction to feminism (of all flavors) and the harmful effects it created and the harmful ideologies it inspired in women and to mangina type men. You come out strongly saying that the men who successfully use game in their mating strategies are sociopathic, well considering that the newspeak for otherwise normal behaviors is now considered bad I’m not surprised you make that accusation. It’s wrong though to the extent that the behaviors are developed and controlled. Most powerful and successful men have some or many of these so called traits. Its natural human behaviors in a certain subset of our population. You do not have to like the fact for the fact to be true.


Poverty is a state of mind. I actually currently broke, but I’m not poor. I have made money and I have struggled financially as I’m currently doing so now. My current situation does not affect my ability to meet high quality women to any great degree. When I have more money, sure its easier but that’s just common sense. More money makes you more attractive to women. However for those of us with less we have to compensate with our awesome personality.

Simply, game works. Men without game don’t get laid, at least not very often and usually not with quality women. Love it or hate it, that’s just the way it is.

You have obviously invested heavily in your opinions and your subsequent hate of all things Game related even though you use it. Some of my most important advisers I do not like personally. However that does not change the validity of their info or knowledge. I see value for what it is, where it is.
I think it’s intellectually dishonest of you to criticize Game and its advocates while practicing the techniques it promotes. If not for those men we would not have learned what we have and our lives would be less rich for it. You should be grateful they spend the time they do to write and compile the information they put out, sometimes at a personal expense.


As the old saying goes, love the player, hate the game.


I see you trying to couple your liberal ideology with game theory and it various flavors. I see that this may be creating a sort of dissonance in you. Us smart guys sometimes have a problem with this. However your resistance to things is a normal symptom of taking the red pill and in time it will pass. It’s a hard thing to reevaluate ones belief system and find out that there oh so many pretty lies.
There is more I can write but I’m tired. One last thought. I have read many of the comments to your articles and what I see is a lot of men who refuse to accept the truth and the reality about how the world works and thus probably do not succeed to any great degree with women. Life’s not fair and it certainly as hell aint equal.

 

Robert Lindsay

August 6, 2014 at 2:40 AM

Look I am banning you. Your presence here suffices to prove to me that almost all of you Game characters are assholes. You are also violating the Comments Rules. Hostile tone.

HAND!

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Comments
  1. Robert Stark says:

    Robert Lindsay’s not the manboob, he supports a positive male identity. The real manboobz are the jock sniffing wannabe pick up artist keyboard warriors and the disease ridden faux alphas who think they are superior to others because of their notch count with ugly bar skanks.

    • monkeywerks says:

      I do not consider myself a PUA by any means but I have “played” quite a bit and myself slept with many many good looking QUALITY women. But, I have also screwed up and went all beta too at some points in my life. For all intents and purposes though I would be still considered an alpha. That said I was trying to help him understand some issues where his thinking was way off base. For that he banned me as he does with anyone who does not kiss his ass or agree with him. Furthermore he is quite rude in calling these men all assholes when it is these same “faux alphas” as you call them who helped birth what we have today as the manosphere. His behavior is brash and hypocritical. If that is his regular personality in the world then I do not see any hope for him meeting women or even having many friends. Lastly you don’t know who these men you refer to have sex with. Maybe they are nasty or maybe they are model quality nice girls. Your comment shows your ignorance and your own anger issues. Its like you, like Robert have alot of envy towards these men and thus you deal with it by disparaging their successes. So maybe the both of you need to drop the ego a bit and pay more attention to whats being written and try not to care so much about the man on the keyboard.

  2. roominasions says:

    Goddamnit. I’m in a bar laughing my ass off. This all gold. He is a fucking manboob. A lactating one. There’s not even a squirly hair attached.

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